ForCollegeForLife Podcast: Caitlin Roberts

In this deeply moving full-length episode of The ForCollegeForLife Podcast, we introduce you to our incredible speaker, Caitlin Roberts. Her story is one of profound resilience and unwavering courage.

For over 20 years, Caitlin dedicated her life to higher education, working closely with fraternities and sororities, shaping the lives of countless students through leadership development and community building. But one fateful moment changed everything.

Awakening in the hospital after a harrowing attack, Caitlin realized she had a different message to share. She speaks not only for herself but for those who can’t, shedding light on the shadows of trauma that many face in silence.

Please be advised: This conversation touches upon the trauma Caitlin endured. We encourage you to approach it with care and empathy, as it’s a testament to her strength and resilience.

Join us as Caitlin shares her journey, from her work in higher education to her mission to help others avoid situations like hers. Her story is a beacon of hope, reminding us that even in the darkest moments, there’s a light within us waiting to shine.


Casey J. Cornelius (00:04):

Hey everyone and welcome to the latest episode of the ForCollegeForLife podcast. My name is Casey Cornelius and I’m the founder and president of ForCollegeForLife, and I get the distinct pleasure to interview those who make us who we are, our speakers, our facilitators, our writers, our consultants, the people who make us America’s leading college speaking agency. Today I have the pleasure of doing a bit of a long form interview. For those of you who are familiar with our Intro Conversations episodes, you know that these can go a little bit longer, so buckle in. I do want to pause for just a second before we get started though, and give a moment of care and let you know that we’re going to be talking about some topics today that might be alarming to you. So I just want to pause at the beginning and say please be aware that these are coming.


If you’d like to go ahead and skip to the next episode, we completely understand, but hope you can hang around. Lemme tell you a little bit about today’s guest. Caitlin Roberts has worked in higher education for over 20 years, primarily with fraternities and sororities. Her work has taken her all over the country working with students on recruitment, leadership development, and community building. But when she woke up in the hospital after an attack by the father of her son, she knew she had a different message to share. Caitlin speaks for those who can’t and wants to help others avoid a situation like her own. She was born and raised in Orange County, California and has always found the wedge in Newport Beach to be her zen location. She received a BA in psychology from California State University, San Bernardino, an MA in psychology from Pepperdine University. She’s a proud member of Kappa Delta Sorority, now serving as director of fraternity and sorority life at the University of Oregon. Go Ducks. Catlin loves exploring the beautiful wonders of nature in Oregon with her son, AJ and their dog Mackenzie. So without any further ado, let me go ahead and bring to the mic none other than Caitlin Roberts. Caitlin. That was a fun bio to read. Did I do okay?

Caitlin Roberts (02:03):

You did great. I loved your go decks.

Casey J. Cornelius (02:07):


Caitlin Roberts (02:07):

Listen, you get the hang of it.

Casey J. Cornelius (02:09):

I’m getting the hang of it. I’m going to be honest with our listeners for just a second. I’m an adopted organ duck at this point. You are. So us ducks fly together as they say. That’s

Caitlin Roberts (02:21):

Right. That’s right.

Casey J. Cornelius (02:23):

Caitlin, I know that we’re going to talk about a lot of stuff today and we’re going to get to the heavy stuff, I promise. But I want to start with sort of your origin story and background. So born and raised in Orange County, California.

Caitlin Roberts (02:37):


Casey J. Cornelius (02:38):

Tell me a little bit about that life growing up.

Caitlin Roberts (02:41):

Well, I lived 15 minutes from Disneyland most of my life, which is not a bad place to be. I remember as a kid we could watch the fireworks from a friend’s house, we could hear them from our house, and it was a lot of fun. It was also affordable to go to Disneyland at that time, so we would get to go on school breaks all the time.

Casey J. Cornelius (03:07):

Was that a field trip kind of thing? Some people go to, I don’t know, the park or to the zoo or something like that. Did you all go to Disney for school field trip?

Caitlin Roberts (03:16):

We did actually, yeah. I think in sixth grade there was a trip and then in high school they do a big grad celebration, so there was that, but we would always go, we were on something, what they called year round school at the time. Now it seems to be the standard practice school starts in July, but we would get three weeks off in October, and so my friends and I would all get to go hang out at Disneyland for a day and it wasn’t as crowded and it wasn’t as hot. It was great.

Casey J. Cornelius (03:52):

I think there are probably quite a few people listening to this right now who are a bit jealous of that reality, especially in October and not having to fight summer crowds and everything like that. That had to be kind of fun. So you acknowledge also that Newport Beach specifically the wedge is your zen location.

Caitlin Roberts (04:12):

Oh, for sure. It’s this really cool place if you’ve never been there where the jetty comes out and the way the waves hit. They’re great waves for surfing, but very dangerous. And so it’s a popular spot for surfers. So I love to go watch them, but just to watch the waves and the way they come in, they’re in different directions and it’s just peaceful. And even if there’s people there, it’s like everyone who goes respects the piece of the place and it’s not, doesn’t get loud, it doesn’t get trashed, it doesn’t get out of control. It’s just like you respect that place. And so I love to go there. Anytime I’m down there now, I will make a point to go out to the end of the peninsula and spend some time at the wedge.

Casey J. Cornelius (05:09):

I almost feel bad even talking about it, right? Because I feel like maybe someone’s listening to this right now and they’re like, I’m going to go and suddenly it won’t be this beautiful, serene place. It’ll be overran with listeners. Now listen, if you’re listening to this right now, please make sure that you’re nice when you go to the wedge at Newport Beach. Right,

Caitlin Roberts (05:27):

Right, right.

Casey J. Cornelius (05:30):

So undergrad, San Bernardino grad school. Pepperdine both in psychology.

Caitlin Roberts (05:36):

Yeah. My original goal was to be a marriage and family therapist, and I was very fascinated by that, but I got sidetracked while I was in grad school. I got a job at Chapman University and I was working with alumni and doing alumni programs, but also incorporating our students to connect them to what their life would be after graduation. And did some volunteer work with the fraternity and sorority community there and had completed all of the classes for my psychology degree in clinical psychology, and then decided I was going to switch to the program that did not require me going for a practicum and a license and all of that. So then I had to take a few extra classes. But I think my psychology background has served me well over the last few years.

Casey J. Cornelius (06:41):

I think so too. I was going to think of that as kind of a thread point going through our conversation today, but I’m also sort of fascinated by the sheer volume of people who go into student affairs. I don’t want to say accidentally, but almost discover it along the way. Like, oh yeah, I can work with students. I don’t want to assume, but it sounds like that was sort of your experience as well.

Caitlin Roberts (07:07):

Totally. When I had just started grad school, my former advisor from my undergrad days called and she was working at a community college and said, I need a activities advisor. Do you want to come work part-time for me? And I thought, well, sure, that’s a great job to do while I’m going to school. And then I got the job at Chapman. My best friend was already in the field and advising fraternities and sororities, so I would go help him all the time, especially with recruitment stuff. And yeah, I remember thinking, I could do this job. This seems really fun.

Casey J. Cornelius (07:52):

People get paid for this. This is, yeah,

Caitlin Roberts (07:53):

Exactly. So I started to pursue jobs and ironically, my first job full-time in fraternity and sorority life was at the University of Oregon, and I was only here a year, but it was a great year and a great year of learning because I worked for one of the best in the field, one of our legends, Shelly Sutherland, and learned a whole lot in that one year. That’s carried me through for my career.

Casey J. Cornelius (08:26):

I remember that when you first told me that story. And my guess is that there are folks who are listening to this right now who know you who didn’t know this also, right? So you’re at the University of Oregon. You’ve had a bit of a, what’s the word, circuitous, if someone’s going to correct me, correct me here in the comments and tell me the way that’s supposed to be. You’ve had a roundabout way of getting back to the University of Oregon, but talk about that one year and how pivotal that was for you.

Caitlin Roberts (08:56):

Well, it was my first time being away from home. I went to college 30 minutes from my parents’ house, lived near campus two years, lived at home two years, so I had not really, hadn’t spent any time away from home, certainly never out of state. So this was my first opportunity to do that. And I think personally, it was really hard on me. I didn’t make a lot of friends while I was here. I had my two dogs and they would go exploring with me, but I didn’t really have anyone my age to hang out with. But professionally, I learned so much working for Shelly, who, if people don’t know who Shelly is, she helped start a f a. She helped start what is now a F L V, but the Western conference and the Mid-America Conference, and she worked in the field for 32 years. Now I’m not that far behind, and she taught me so much, and Shelly’s a little intimidating at times and could be a little scary, but boy, she kept me in line and really helped format. There’s things I go to still today that I learned from Shelley or I’ll have these moments that what would Shelley do in this instance? Yeah, she really was a guiding light for me.

Casey J. Cornelius (10:44):

I’m always fascinated the learning trees that professionals find themselves under and for that year and the influence that that has provided to not only your professional life, but I am sure your personal life as well. Something drew you back to Eugene, but again, it was not a direct path. So where after that year at the University of Oregon did you go?

Caitlin Roberts (11:12):

So I went back home to Southern California. I was homesick and I swore I’d never go back to Eugene, never say never. And I actually had three offers on the table and decided to go with Long Beach State. And I spent 10 years at Long Beach and grew up there really, I think professionally. That’s where I was able to practice things and perfect things and learn so much incredible students that I worked with while I was at Long Beach. I just absolutely love that community. And as I moved on in my career, people would always ask, especially in the interview settings, tell us your experience working with diverse populations. And having been at Long Beach for so long, it was just ingrained. It’s one of the most diverse campuses in the entire country. And so it took me a while to figure out how to answer that question because it was just part of my professional being and what we did every day. We worked with amazing students, I worked with Dreamers, I worked with, well, definitely first generation students, and I worked with organizations that were founded at that campus, multicultural groups, and their founders were still around and got to meet them. And that was just so cool to be part of that community. It was a great experience for me there.

Casey J. Cornelius (12:59):

I can imagine. So by the way, folks, if you don’t yet know Caitlin, and I’m sure some of you listening to this don’t yet, please make sure that you learn more about her signature work By the way, that is spelled C A I T L I N. Not to be confused with Caitlin, not Caitlin Caitlin. I’ll

Caitlin Roberts (13:21):

Answer to both.

Casey J. Cornelius (13:23):

Yeah, but listen folks, let’s try. Let’s try our best. It’s Caitlin Roberts. So Caitlin, we made adjourn from Long Beach, though.

Caitlin Roberts (13:34):

Yeah, yeah. Well, I became a mom in 2013, and that definitely changed my perspective on my professional life and personal life and all kinds of things. And my partner at the time had spent part of his childhood in Atlanta, and he was kind of interested in going back and I got recruited for a job at the University of North Georgia, which is about two hours north of Atlanta. And I took it and we packed up our almost two year old kid and drove across the country from California to Georgia, and we lived there for two years. And the University of North Georgia is a senior military institution. So that gave me a totally new perspective on things. When you are hosting an event and someone comes over and tells you that you’re going to have to move your tables because the black hawks are going to land on the field that you’re on,

Casey J. Cornelius (14:47):

You better move your tables right? You

Caitlin Roberts (14:48):

Better move your tables because they are going to land those black hawks no matter what. It was quite an experience, but I made some great friends there, but was really just so homesick for the west coast. And this job at Oregon came open and I thought, well, maybe I could go back to Eugene and here I am, it’ll be six years in October

Casey J. Cornelius (15:16):

And this time with a son this time with a partner. And I knew we were going to get here and we’re getting to the part of the podcast where we’re going to talk about some heavy stuff. So again, folks, I’m just going to take a moment to pause, let you know this is where we enter into that. So Caitlin, I’m going to give a wide birth here to let you talk about this. So December, 2019, things changed in a pretty considerable way.

Caitlin Roberts (15:47):

They did. It actually started a few months before that. My son’s father had struggled with mental health issues, but wasn’t really ready to address them or treat them, and things were progressively getting worse. He was just really disconnected from our family and from our relationship especially. He’d struggled to find work when we moved to Oregon. And he finally had found a job actually here in the same building that I work in on campus. And he was really well respected and loved, and I think he really liked his job and things were going well for him there. But personally, things just were not working for the two of us. And I think he was struggling with a lot. And so we had decided that we were going to end things and he’d found an apartment he was going to move out too, but it took a while to find that.


So he was just kind of living on my couch for a while and it was getting close to the holidays and I’m super sentimental and that I don’t want my son’s memories of Christmas to be. That’s when his dad left. So I was fine with him staying until the end of the year and that sort of thing, but he couldn’t do it. And he took AJ to the movies one night. They went to see the opening night of Star Wars movie and came home and AJ came and got in bed with me e and we went to sleep. And then about three o’clock in the morning, I was awoken to my bedroom door opening pretty loudly. When you open a door to a room that someone’s sleeping in, you usually try to be real quiet, sneak in. That was not the case. It was definitely the intent to wake me up.


So I did. And he wouldn’t say anything to me. I asked what was going on and he said, don’t worry about it. And so I looked at my phone and he had, sorry, he took my phone. I looked at my iPad and he had texted me that he wanted to talk. So I was like, well, I’m awake now. So I went downstairs and he was accusing me of things that I hadn’t done and was obviously quite angry with me. And I kind of attempted to, what’s the word I’m looking for, kind of diffuse the situation and calm it down. And I was kind of laughing and that made it worse for him. And he just started screaming obscenities at me telling me to shut up. So I told him to get out of my house and to give me my phone back, and he reached over.


There was a pillow laying on the couch, and I thought that’s where my phone was. And the next thing I knew he had pinned me down to the couch and was stabbing me. And I was stabbed 19 times in total. And the final wound went through my neck and came out my throat, and I could see the blade actually sticking out of my throat. And at that point I said, I’m dead. I’m dead. And he removed the knife and left me to die. He went and put it in the kitchen sink. I rolled onto the floor and played dead. And he went out the front door and I laid on the floor and I knew I was dying. I felt my body dying. I could smell the blood. And I just kept thinking about my son who was barricaded upstairs in my bedroom with my mom.


Fortunately, she was there and had called for help. And three minutes from the time the phone call went to nine one one was what it took for the police to get to our house. And he was just sitting on the curb out front and they arrested him. And ironically, the officer who arrested him grew up in Los Alamitos, which is right next to Long Beach and actually knows a lot of my former students from Long Beach. And another officer came in and tended to me and saved my life. He had combat gauze, which is treated with a special chemical to stop the bleeding. And he was able to get that into the worst wound on my neck and literally saved my life. And they got me to the hospital.


The nurse who was in the emergency room that night, his name was Andy. And I looked at him and he said, what’s up buttercup? And I said, please don’t let me die. And he goes, no, that’s not the plan. And I held my hand up and he said, do you want me to hold your hand? And I nodded, yes. And he held my hand. I was wearing a diamond necklace. It was actually my mom’s wedding ring that she had, the diamond made into a pendant for me. And so he said, can I take your necklace off? And truthfully, now that I look at it, I’m amazed that it survived because it’s on a very thin chain. But he was so careful and kind, and it was obvious that I was his only focus and he was going to help me however he could. And the room was full of people.


And that’s pretty much the last I remember for a couple days. But I’ve talked to him many times since, and I said, I don’t really remember much after meeting you in the emergency room. And he said, oh no, we put you right to sleep. We knew you were going to surgery, and so we just let you rest. But I actually suffered cardiac arrest, and I was lifeless. I was dead for three different times and they brought me back. I didn’t see a light or anything like that. People talk about their life flashes before them or they see a light, and I don’t remember any of that. All I remember is just thinking about aj, my son, and that I needed to stay for him. I needed to be there for him.

Casey J. Cornelius (23:35):

I know your story, I know your journey, and it never fails to, I’m not often speechless, but it never fails to strike me when you share it. I want to thank you first and foremost as a human for being so brave. There’s a couple of questions that arise. I know that you have said before that you consider yourself lucky. And my hunch is, other than the obvious, we’re having this conversation. You’re very much here, you’re very much alive. What about this situation? Do you find yourself feeling lucky as we sit here today?

Caitlin Roberts (24:22):

Well, yeah, obviously that I survived, but lucky that I’m here with aj, that he doesn’t have to grow up without parents. And I’m lucky that I can share my story. Chris had never been physically abusive with me, but there was definitely a lot of emotional and mental abuse going on that I always made excuses for. And I don’t think even my friends and family were very aware of it. I think we both hid it very well. So I think the lucky part is that I can talk about that to people who might be in the same situation. I know I always thought to myself, well, he doesn’t hit me. And he’s a big dude. He’s six foot five, almost 300 pounds. He certainly could have hit me and hurt me a lot at any point in time, but the abuse that I did suffer, I think is something that a lot of people go through.


And I think being able to help people recognize that and know that it is abuse and it can lead to harsher things, even if you think it’s not, it can lead to something really violent. And so I count myself lucky that I can share that story. I am in therapy, we’ll probably always be in therapy. And I absolutely love my therapist. She’s amazing. But in one of our first sessions, she said to me, I feel like you were meant to be here so that you can speak for the people who can’t. And that has really been my motivation and my driving force of being able to just get out there and talk about, because we don’t want to talk about it. It’s an ugly subject, and you don’t want to, A lot of people aren’t comfortable airing their personal business, and I understand that, but for me, it is healing. It’s helpful. And I think if I can help one person avoid a situation like this, then it’s all worth it to me.

Casey J. Cornelius (27:19):

And I think as your friend Caitlin, and I think people who know you would say this and confirm this as well, that you’re a helper at your core. So that through line back to what draws someone to study psychology, what draws someone to be an advisor? What draws Well, I think at the center you are a helper.

Caitlin Roberts (27:42):

Yeah. Yeah, I definitely am. Yes.

Casey J. Cornelius (27:46):

And your program really is about helping others. I want to demystify something real quick. I hear this every once in a while. Like, oh, this is a difficult tale that Caitlin is going to share. And it’s true. Listen, folks, you can’t live what you’ve lived and not, but I think the interesting thing to me is that you really make this very much about the audience instead about their relationships that you’re helping in that way too. Can you speak on that just a little bit?

Caitlin Roberts (28:22):

Yeah, yeah. I think sharing my story helps make me relatable, that maybe people can see themselves in my story in some way, shape, or form. Certainly very few people have been stabbed 19 times, but I think they’ll see themselves in other parts kind of in the buildup to that. And then I want to help people because domestic violence can occur. It isn’t just romantic violence. It isn’t just intimate partner violence. It can happen in family situations. It can happen in friendships even. And so I want people to recognize that in particular, the population that I am most familiar with, 18 to 24 year olds are most vulnerable to abusive situations. I helping people understand that it’s not okay, and you don’t have to sweep it under the rug. And also for those supporters, the people who want to take care. I know many times in my life I’ve said to a friend, you don’t deserve to be treated that way.


And if I had seen, if I was on the outside and saw the way I was being treated, I would’ve said something to myself. But you can’t see it when you’re in it. And helping people understand how to communicate with your friends who maybe are in a scary situation, or to communicate to your friends that you are in a scary situation and how to support each other and how to help each other. There’s a reason that people return to abusive relationships, and you have to commit to working on yourself to break that cycle. And it’s not easy at all. It’s really hard, but it’s so worth it to make yourself feel better and to be safe. I mean, bottom line, just be safe.

Casey J. Cornelius (30:51):

I want to also ask the question that it feels like it’s inherent in this too. I know you’d referenced that your partner worked in the same building. No one assumed that anything negative was going on behind closed doors. I feel like in some ways, that’s even the hardest of these dynamics when there’s not some situation, there’s not some eruption or something that other people notice. If you could give a pearl of advice right now to someone listening who might be going through a tough situation, what might it be?

Caitlin Roberts (31:34):

Don’t be ashamed. I think that was the biggest thing holding me back here. I’ve been an advocate for students, for humans, in particular, for women. And I’d always really tried to speak up against what wasn’t right, but it was so hard for me to admit that I was myself in that situation. And then I was embarrassed that it had happened to me. But don’t be ashamed. There are so many people who want to help you, and life is so much better than the way you’re being treated. And you deserve, deserve that. Everyone deserves to be loved and healthy and happy without restrictions and without boundaries. And well, boundaries are healthy, but bad boundaries are not. And just just seek help. And even if it’s just for you to talk to someone, to know that you’re loved, to know that you’re cared for, reach out to someone there are resources everywhere, or find a safe friend that you think, and let your friends carry that for a little bit. Let them help you because I’m sure I know that there are people who will be willing to research for you and find ways for you to get out and find ways for you to get away. And I’m one of those people. I will help anyone who needs the help. I will help them find what their local resources are and get out. You have to speak up. You have to say something.

Casey J. Cornelius (33:47):

Catlin, I’ve said this to you privately before, and I’ll say it now publicly for the whole world to hear. I so respect you. I love you. I admire who you are, what you’re about, and the passion and the mission that you’re on to help others in these really complex dynamics. So again, on a human level, thank you so much. Folks. If you’re not yet aware, please make sure you visit, C A I T L I N. Don’t call her Caitlin Caitlin Roberts. Listen, we’re going to do a hard pivot onto some easier conversations. I promise you, we weren’t going to stay hard the entire time. So Caitlin, I have a few questions to get you out of here. Some get to know you stuff. Some folks out there probably who don’t know you yet already will be particularly clued in to hear these things. So here we go. Rapid fire. Alright, so Catlin, I want you to imagine for just a second that you have an entire day to binge watch anything you want. What do you choose?

Caitlin Roberts (34:58):

It would probably be H G T V, because I have these dreams that I am now a DIYer and can do all these amazing things in my house, which I probably can’t do, or selling Sunset. I love selling Sunset.

Casey J. Cornelius (35:13):

Okay, let’s start with H G T V for just a second, right? So is it like Property Brothers or something? Is there a,

Caitlin Roberts (35:22):

I like the new show the Property Brothers are doing with celebrities where they make over for a friend of a celebrity, but I really love, is it Hometown with Erin? Oh,

Casey J. Cornelius (35:40):

Yes, yes, yes.

Caitlin Roberts (35:43):

Yeah, I really love that one. And there’s a new one that’s no Reno, no demo, Reno, I think it’s called, where she goes in and renovates properties, but without the demolishing.

Casey J. Cornelius (36:00):

That one actually feels a bit more relatable too, doesn’t it? Do we always have to take down a wall? Do we

Caitlin Roberts (36:05):

Always, it’s probably safer for me. Yeah, those are some of my favorites.

Casey J. Cornelius (36:11):

I love it. I love it. So H G T V selling Sunset, which probably brings you back to some of those California roots, I imagine, also. Oh,

Caitlin Roberts (36:16):

Yeah. Yeah. When I lived here the first time, the show, Laguna Beach was on, and I remember watching that when I was homesick and being like, oh, I remember going there, and Oh, I know that place. And so I love seeing, and those houses are just incredible. Yes. My other guilty pleasure is car chases. Wait,

Casey J. Cornelius (36:45):

What? Hold on. Hold on. What?

Caitlin Roberts (36:49):

So LA is known for having some pretty wild car chases, and I actually get notifications on my phone when there’s a car chase in la, and so then I will go online and watch it. Oh,

Casey J. Cornelius (37:05):

Like the helicopters? Yeah,

Caitlin Roberts (37:07):

The helicopters follow. Yeah. I get really excited.

Casey J. Cornelius (37:12):

So listen, folks, if you want to surprise Catlin someday, just send her a video of some chases on the freeway.

Caitlin Roberts (37:19):


Casey J. Cornelius (37:21):

Learning so much about you.

Caitlin Roberts (37:23):

Yes. When I lived there, I actually was in the middle of a couple car chases, not me. I wasn’t being chased. I just watched them go by.

Casey J. Cornelius (37:32):

It’s just part of the experience,

Caitlin Roberts (37:34):

Right? It really is.

Casey J. Cornelius (37:35):

Yes. Catlin, what is the most used app on your phone?

Caitlin Roberts (37:40):

Ooh, probably aside from my email, which probably isn’t healthy, my social media apps, it would be a tie with Instagram and Facebook, and probably TikTok too.

Casey J. Cornelius (37:58):

Oh, wait, I feel like that’s a little bit of a confession coming out there.

Caitlin Roberts (38:01):

I don’t post. I really don’t. I don’t post anything on TikTok, and I don’t post a lot on social media anymore, and I can’t imagine posting a video, but someday, I’m sure I will. But I love to watch TikTok videos, and I love the stupid animal ones, and yeah, and the funny kids videos. Those are my favorites.

Casey J. Cornelius (38:27):

I have been known, what’s the old phrase, A longtime listener, first time caller. I don’t know that I will ever be TikTok producer of content, but I do find myself in the rabbit hole every once in a while of consuming content. That’s for darn sure.

Caitlin Roberts (38:45):


Casey J. Cornelius (38:47):

Okay. All right. Caitlin, who would you most like to have dinner with?

Caitlin Roberts (38:55):

Honestly, I think if I could have dinner with my grandparents one more time. They’ve both passed, but there are so many times where I think, oh, I wish I knew this, or I wish I had asked them this question. My grandfather was an international corporate attorney, and he traveled the world and represented clients all over the place. And I mean, he just led such an interesting life, and I would love to be able to ask them more questions about that.

Casey J. Cornelius (39:35):

That’s really cool. And also really cool and not surprising that you would pick someone who’s close to you, right? You didn’t pick Jay-Z or somebody, right?

Caitlin Roberts (39:46):

That would be,

Casey J. Cornelius (39:47):

It would be, no, don’t. And by the way, no disrespect to Jay-Z, but of course, obviously picking grandparents would be better. Caitlin, what do you do to wind down at the end of the day? So it’s been a long day. AJ’s probably off the bed at this point, hopefully, knock on wood,

Caitlin Roberts (40:05):

Probably playing video games,

Casey J. Cornelius (40:07):

Probably playing right. Do you have any rituals or anything that signals like, Hey, end of the day, time to wind down? What do you do?

Caitlin Roberts (40:13):

I go in my room where it’s quiet. My mom lives with us. I have a very, very busy, almost 10 year old boy, so I don’t get a lot of time alone. So I like to just have quiet time. And sometimes I will write, sometimes I will just scroll endlessly through social media. Sometimes I’ll watch Dateline. Always a healthy thing to watch before you go to bed. And yeah, I think just the fact that I’m alone and have some quiet time, that’s the best way to wind down for me.

Casey J. Cornelius (40:57):

I would imagine. Like you say, between your son, shout out aj, by the way, I love the aj between your son, between your mom, between all the students at Oregon who consider you the mama duck and all that. You probably don’t get a lot of quiet time, do you?

Caitlin Roberts (41:13):

I don’t. I don’t. My commute, my 20 minute commute back and forth to work is usually quiet time. AJ’s been coming to work with me this summer, but yeah, and then that time, at the end of the day, that’s my time.

Casey J. Cornelius (41:30):

I like it. Well, again, shout out aj. Aj, if you’re listening, this Uncle Casey looks forward to seeing you next time. Folks, if you haven’t yet already, please make sure you visit Caitlin, last question to get you out of here. How can listeners best connect with you?

Caitlin Roberts (41:46):


Casey J. Cornelius (41:50):

Not TikTok folks. Do not reach out.

Caitlin Roberts (41:52):

Not on social media is a great way. I’m slowly getting that up and off the ground a little bit more, an email, a text, any of that? Totally fine.

Casey J. Cornelius (42:07):

Listen, we’re not going to give out your

Caitlin Roberts (42:08):

Phone number, your

Casey J. Cornelius (42:10):

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pop it, pop it my way and stuff like that. But I assume you’re on LinkedIn and all that other kind of stuff if people want

Caitlin Roberts (42:16):

To. I am, yeah. LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook. I do have a TikTok account. I just don’t post anything on it and email. You can find me through University of Oregon or on my Gmail.

Casey J. Cornelius (42:37):

Can I give out your Gmail? Is that okay? It’s buttercup catlin gmail com. And by the way, now having listened to this episode, you know where that Platter Cup mention comes from, so

Caitlin Roberts (42:52):

There you go. Exactly. It all ties together.

Casey J. Cornelius (42:54):

Caitlin, I so appreciate you. Thank you for sharing this time and for also sharing your message. It is just abundantly important and so honored to see all the good that you’re doing in the world.

Caitlin Roberts (43:08):

Well, Casey, I appreciate you and the opportunity to share my story. I am looking forward to sharing it as much as I can, and I appreciate all of your support and help in making that happen.

Casey J. Cornelius (43:22):

It’s endless. It is endless and constant. So thank you so much, folks. If you have enjoyed this episode, please make sure that you do the thing that you’re supposed to do with podcasts and share and subscribe and comments, and make sure that the people who need to hear this episode that they have it at their fingertips. Go ahead and share it with them, send ’em in messages, everything like that. Also, we ask you if there’s anything you’d like to hear us talk about that we haven’t yet already. If you’d like to dig more deeply into Caitlins story or anybody else’s, please also let us know. We want to be as responsive as possible and deliver to you the content that is most desirable. So until then, until next time, please be well and we’ll talk to you soon. Thanks everyone.

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